Set-up tutorial

[Tha0ne]

Well, all they said in the Game Informer about setups was wedge, track bar, tire psi and many more. Also Eutechnyx put almost a dozen pre-made setups in the game for those who don't want to play crew chief!

Thats great to know!

I hope I can start off with a loose setup!

[Wilbur]

I know I'm bring this back up after it's been dead for little while.

I do hope that people aren't so protective over their setups as in Nascar 09. I still struggle with setup there, can't seem to get speed without a draft (I only race Daytona or Tall. but would love to run a season or series).

I will try to get through the race central setup help, but hopefully either here or online more are helpful with giving info.

[Thorsfew]

Yes, I too hope the community "shares" its findings with set ups. Of course a player will ensure he/she still has the edge, but the most skilled racing will come down to how gentle a player is with their controller. The lucky few with steering wheels will enjoy a good 1/2hr perfecting the response to give much smoother steering and drive line.

[AR_Racing]

I know I'm bring this back up after it's been dead for little while.

I do hope that people aren't so protective over their setups as in Nascar 09. I still struggle with setup there, can't seem to get speed without a draft (I only race Daytona or Tall. but would love to run a season or series).

I will try to get through the race central setup help, but hopefully either here or online more are helpful with giving info.

This could be fixed because of the people can make a fixed setup room so everyone has to use the same setup.

[Jeff22]

setups will still be super secret, that much I'm sure of, as winning is more important to most than great racing. It's unfortunate, but it's a fact. People like to win, and if they have a great setup that keeps them winning, most people won't share it. I see where they are coming from, as they worked hard for it, and to really take advantage of the great setup you just came up with, it has to be only yours, as it's not an advantage if everyone has it. That being said, it'd be awesome if more people shared but I'm sure the actual cup teams that can't compete with Hendrick and Gibbs are thinking the same thing. I'm not great with setups, but decent, and if anyone on here ever races with me and thinks my setup is better than thiers, don't hesitate to ask for it, I'll do what I can to help.

[TOYOTA-RAClN-9l]

yeah I'm sure most of the community will share good solid setups. But, for those of us that have those killer ones that win almost the whole time. You won't see those

[CWT 3000]

I am a long time NASCAR fan and have only been playing NASCAR 09 for a couple years

Maybe someone can shed some light on an effective way of setting the bump & rebound settings in car set-up. I'm sure this will be an option in NTG11 and I'd like to know what exactly i am doing. I've really never adjusted these in my personal set-ups without knowing what I am doing. Most guides I've seen don't refer to the rebound and bump settings. Anyways, I though I'd throw this out there to see if someone could help.

Should i be setting the rebound and bump before adjusting wedge, swaybars and camber?

Is there a good order to follow when creating a set-up? Usually I work on tire psi & camber last for better tire wear, but i feel like I am going about it wrong, because my lap times have always been 1-2 seconds slower than the top cars.

[TTD]

I'll be watching this thread with interest.

I'm not a massive tuner by any means, but I can set the camber, tire pressures, wedge, track bar, an such to decent effect .... but never really got my head round the bump and rebound.

Hopefully someone can explain it in laymans terms so I can understand it .... lol

[SC_45]

Here's how I usually setup my car...

1. tire pressure (for tire wear, not handling)
2. wedge
3. springs
4. bump, rebound
5. wedge
6. grille tape
7. camber
8. tire pressure (for tire wear)
8. camber
8. tire pressure (for tire wear)
9. gears
10. springs
11. bump, rebound
12. sway bar
13. tire pressure (for handling)
14. weight distribution
15. wedge
16. caster
17. Brake bias

Bump and rebound - the higher the number, the stiffer the shock. Soften the right rear if your car is loose, soften right front if it is tight. Works best if you adjust with a 1:3 ratio

Wedge - Increase wedge if your car is loose, decrease if it is tight. Note: tightening your car will wear your right front tire quicker, loosening up your car will wear out your right rear tire quicker.

Springs - Stiffen right rear spring if your car is loose, soften right front if your car is tight

Grille tape - More grill tape = better downforce, but also means there's a better chance of your engine overheating

Gears - Higher gear ration means quicker acceleration, lower top speed, worse fuel mileage. The opposite is true for lower gear ratio. Keep them low at short tracks and road courses.

Sway bar - Stiffen sway bar is your car is loose, loosen sway bar if car is tight

Tires - The higher the pressure, the higher the top speed. The lower the pressure, the quicker the acceleration. Higher pressures have less grip than lower pressures. Adding pressure to a tire is basically the same as stiffening a spring...lowering pressure is like softening a spring. At most tracks you will usually want your left-front to have lowest pressure, left-rear to be 2nd-lowest, right-rear to be 3rd-lowest, right-front to be highest.

Brake bias - The higher the amount in the front, the longer it will take your car to stop. The higher the amount in the rear, the faster your car stops but also greatly increases the chances that you spin out when braking.

[CWT 3000]

Here's how I usually setup my car...

1. tire pressure (for tire wear, not handling)
2. wedge
3. springs
4. bump, rebound
5. wedge
6. grille tape
7. camber
8. tire pressure (for tire wear)
8. camber
8. tire pressure (for tire wear)
9. gears
10. springs
11. bump, rebound
12. sway bar
13. tire pressure (for handling)
14. weight distribution
15. wedge
16. caster
17. Brake bias

Bump and rebound - the higher the number, the stiffer the shock. Soften the right rear if your car is loose, soften right front if it is tight. Works best if you adjust with a 1:3 ratio

Wedge - Increase wedge if your car is loose, decrease if it is tight. Note: tightening your car will wear your right front tire quicker, loosening up your car will wear out your right rear tire quicker.

Springs - Stiffen right rear spring if your car is loose, soften right front if your car is tight

Grille tape - More grill tape = better downforce, but also means there's a better chance of your engine overheating

Gears - Higher gear ration means quicker acceleration, lower top speed, worse fuel mileage. The opposite is true for lower gear ratio. Keep them low at short tracks and road courses.

Sway bar - Stiffen sway bar is your car is loose, loosen sway bar if car is tight

Tires - The higher the pressure, the higher the top speed. The lower the pressure, the quicker the acceleration. Higher pressures have less grip than lower pressures. Adding pressure to a tire is basically the same as stiffening a spring...lowering pressure is like softening a spring. At most tracks you will usually want your left-front to have lowest pressure, left-rear to be 2nd-lowest, right-rear to be 3rd-lowest, right-front to be highest.

Brake bias - The higher the amount in the front, the longer it will take your car to stop. The higher the amount in the rear, the faster your car stops but also greatly increases the chances that you spin out when braking.

So should i start with the lowest rebound and bump setting and adjust each independently? My Daytona set-up has maximum bump & rebound for better speeds. I haven't changed that set-up in a year, but if I remeber right, if I lower those two settings my overall times begin to slow. My biggest concern is at the 1.5 milers where cornering speed is important. Is it safe to say bump and rebound is more for corner entry?

[SC_45]

Is it safe to say bump and rebound is more for corner entry?

Yes. Don't worry at all about using bump and rebound for acceleration or speed. Use gears and tire pressures for that.

[Kingsly9]

If memory serves me correctly, Bump is used for entry to the corners and rebound is used for the exits, although I may be wrong.

[David T. 1124]

Here's how I usually setup my car...

1. tire pressure (for tire wear, not handling)
2. wedge
3. springs
4. bump, rebound
5. wedge
6. grille tape
7. camber
8. tire pressure (for tire wear)
8. camber
8. tire pressure (for tire wear)
9. gears
10. springs
11. bump, rebound
12. sway bar
13. tire pressure (for handling)
14. weight distribution
15. wedge
16. caster
17. Brake bias

Bump and rebound - the higher the number, the stiffer the shock. Soften the right rear if your car is loose, soften right front if it is tight. Works best if you adjust with a 1:3 ratio

Wedge - Increase wedge if your car is loose, decrease if it is tight. Note: tightening your car will wear your right front tire quicker, loosening up your car will wear out your right rear tire quicker.

Springs - Stiffen right rear spring if your car is loose, soften right front if your car is tight

Grille tape - More grill tape = better downforce, but also means there's a better chance of your engine overheating

Gears - Higher gear ration means quicker acceleration, lower top speed, worse fuel mileage. The opposite is true for lower gear ratio. Keep them low at short tracks and road courses.

Sway bar - Stiffen sway bar is your car is loose, loosen sway bar if car is tight

Tires - The higher the pressure, the higher the top speed. The lower the pressure, the quicker the acceleration. Higher pressures have less grip than lower pressures. Adding pressure to a tire is basically the same as stiffening a spring...lowering pressure is like softening a spring. At most tracks you will usually want your left-front to have lowest pressure, left-rear to be 2nd-lowest, right-rear to be 3rd-lowest, right-front to be highest.

Brake bias - The higher the amount in the front, the longer it will take your car to stop. The higher the amount in the rear, the faster your car stops but also greatly increases the chances that you spin out when braking.

I'll try these when I play 09 tomorrow. I'm TERRIBLE at making good setups.

[Wilbur]

setups will still be super secret, that much I'm sure of, as winning is more important to most than great racing. It's unfortunate, but it's a fact. People like to win, and if they have a great setup that keeps them winning, most people won't share it. I see where they are coming from, as they worked hard for it, and to really take advantage of the great setup you just came up with, it has to be only yours, as it's not an advantage if everyone has it. That being said, it'd be awesome if more people shared but I'm sure the actual cup teams that can't compete with Hendrick and Gibbs are thinking the same thing. I'm not great with setups, but decent, and if anyone on here ever races with me and thinks my setup is better than thiers, don't hesitate to ask for it, I'll do what I can to help.

I agree! I'd give anyone my setup to anyone. I've won a race, but I'm much more interested in great racing vs win.

[cody0103]

I myself could use help with setups. Im no pro by any means. I would be willing to take the time to make a website for us and others to share different setups if enough people think this would be helpful.

[Pilot]

I myself could use help with setups. Im no pro by any means. I would be willing to take the time to make a website for us and others to share different setups if enough people think this would be helpful.

Now most of the people will obviously this sounds good, but when the time comes to 'share' setup, nobody will. Setups and especially good ones play huge role in winning races online :P

[barns]

Now most of the people will obviously this sounds good, but when the time comes to 'share' setup, nobody will. Setups and especially good ones play huge role in winning races online :P

Well, I'm one that will share regardless! lol

Maybe I'm 1 in a 1,000 that will. But I don't care about leader boards or if I win every race. I just like to race with good drivers. Besides, most my racing is done in the league. So I will be more than willing to give out my setups.

That's just my reason for sharing!

[cody0103]

Well, I'm one that will share regardless! lol

Maybe I'm 1 in a 1,000 that will. But I don't care about leader boards or if I win every race. I just like to race with good drivers. Besides, most my racing is done in the league. So I will be more than willing to give out my setups.

That's just my reason for sharing!

ok. i will start to work on a site for this. Im hoping that the people who come to the site will share good setups regardless. I dont expect it to become the most famous site out there. So its not like setups will be known by the whole world. Also i got in the back of my mind, appointing a couple people as admins for the site to make their own league..

[barns]

ok. i will start to work on a site for this. Im hoping that the people who come to the site will share good setups regardless. I dont expect it to become the most famous site out there. So its not like setups will be known by the whole world. Also i got in the back of my mind, appointing a couple people as admins for the site to make their own league..

I believe that Eutechnyx plans on doing that here also. Just letting you know. But the thought that you would or will do this, is greatly appreciated!

[Tha0ne]

I will never give away any setups. The first time I gave away a setup, they gave it to someone else.

[cody0103]

I believe that Eutechnyx plans on doing that here also. Just letting you know. But the thought that you would or will do this, is greatly appreciated!

No problem. maybe ill still look into it for a league. Where only members can view certain setup pages

[cody0103]

Ok folks. Ive created the site. But not only is it geared towards setup learning and sharing. But towards a new league which im leaving for others to design and create themselves. I just put it together and want those who are good at cordinating things to put it together and run it completely. Im not asking them to do it for me concidering im making who ever decides to take the lead a moderator. (but i will take part in the league if they allow me to )

Anyways check it out. signup. or dont signup http://racingsetups.webs.com/